[Toybox] Tired of gmails nonsense.

[Rob Landley]

I'm not sure if it's gmails fault entirely, but I've only been seeing
about half of the posts to this list. Mostly those from enh of late.
I know others post, I ran see their replies in things enh quotes. Last
month it was mostly just Robs posts. And yet another "membership in
the mailing list Toybox has been disabled due to excessive bounces".
On top of that, due to a gmail "feature" I had to have a read only and
a write only subscription. It's considered a feature by Google, there
have been bug reports about it closed for many years.
So now I'm trying my own email server. I'm slowly weening myself off
Google everything anyway.

What are you using for spam filtering?

Rob

[Ivo van Poorten]

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 13:54:10 +1000 David Seikel

I'm not sure if it's gmails fault entirely, but I've only been seeing
about half of the posts to this list. Mostly those from enh of late.

The same is happening here. I only see enh's replies and none of Rob.

Regards,
Ivo

[Rob Landley]

Post by Ivo van Poorten
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 13:54:10 +1000 David Seikel

I'm not sure if it's gmails fault entirely, but I've only been seeing
about half of the posts to this list. Mostly those from enh of late.

The same is happening here. I only see enh's replies and none of Rob.

It's showing up in the web archive. :P

The ironic part is my email is going out through gmail's smtp servers. It's a
weird "gmail hosted domain" thing (of a type I'm pretty sure they discontinued),
which I mostly wash through their smtp and pop3 servers and only use the web
interface to fish stuff out of the spam folder.

I could point the DNS mx records to dreamhost's mail servers (or theoretically
set up my own), but A) leveraging the giant spam filtering dataset is why I did
that in the first place, B) gmail's out of control spam filter could still
decide it didn't like me.

What you've gotta do is go into the spam filter, click "not spam" on every
message, and then do this over and over again for _weeks_ until it FINALLY NOTICES.

I'm back down to checking it weekly now that the header rewrite's in there, but
I also look at the web archive every day or two and see if there's something in
there I don't recognize...

Rob